Thread:PLANET23K/@comment-27600937-20190815221756/@comment-28542427-20190816171743

Okay, I'll contact them both in free time and see if there will be any reaction.. definitely not taking any actions, no worries. Let's wait and see (even if I'm not a total fan of this kind of solutions, sometimes these are the best).

My view? They are retired admins. I think we should definitely honor their work on Administrators page as retired (along with some other past admins), as they absolutely deserve that. The rest.. depends on the point of view. The admins rights could be seen as anything from tools (or better put, power tools), through sign of recognition, an honorary title or token of trust and appreciation. And it probably is all of it in some way, to make things more complicated : P

But still... it is misleading, because Plojikuh is actually listed on the admin list (and strangely Jane isn't), Jane's last edit comes from this year from the time you upgraded her and it looks like she edited at that time (hell, Shrev even left her a message on the wall when he joined as a manager : D), and while they obviously don't use them since they're inactive, this is an obsolete thing for them at this point of time. So while it's not a very strong "yes", I'd say they simply don't need those rights as of current time and we could actually revoke those without any harm, resulting in a clear situation for everybody. And surely I wouldn't treat that as a dishonor. Thing is, a few years passed, so in this regard it's a no-brainer. And as I mentioned, if they come back (yes, I doubt it too) and want to do good, deeper edits (so they would absolutely need the rights for eg. templates or infoboxes), they've got a green light from me.

As for Magma-Man, it's a bit sad accent, because I doubt there's much to talk about. As of now he's not active on any Wikis, last thing I saw him doing anything was just an edit of his page in later 2018 on some 'random' Wiki, and before that it was some edits in.. 2015. So I'd say he's as inactive as possible : P Also, even being a founder he doesn't have more rights than any user, because during the adoption process Hathomirr initiated, he and some other people people were stripped of 'crat and admin rights. He's already mentioned on the Admins page, so not much to add there. Lastly, about the "sad" part, he's left the Wiki in a bit of a ... well, not the best way, to put it nice. We can talk about it in private, but I'd say he could've at least chosen his words better when leaving. And well, his edits aren't really remarkable when you actually look upon them. So I would just leave it be, I'm grateful he created this Wiki, started the project and got some people going, but well, I don't suppose he cared that much.. alas.